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The Belmont - 6/9/2017 4:41:36 PM   


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Let's start the thread with the first of many nice undercard plays.
In the 9th: Mohaymen (20-1 in early lines) for first or second.
In the Belmont: 1-6-8 for a nice tri box because: My name's Thomas Lee P. and I'm a senior citizen. That's enuf of a reason, right?
Obvious throwaways for me: 5, 10,12 (sorry, no sympathy from me) and 11 (got a recent foot injury and may even be scratched tomorrow) and #7, Irish War Cry, for a few reasons.
I'll be back later with combos on the remaining...maybe mostly tris


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RE: The Belmont - 6/9/2017 5:29:32 PM   
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I`m as twisted as you Tom. No I for me. Win and Place, and in first and second with a four or five others in the Triactor.
And you think your senior, I just turned 80 last Sunday.

Good Luck Man.



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RE: The Belmont - 6/9/2017 6:06:51 PM   


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Belmont Stakes
Win, Place & Show ( across the board)
#2 Tapwrit (8-1)



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RE: The Belmont - 6/10/2017 8:20:39 AM   


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I'm gonna go small this race but go bold. I'm gonna try to beat the favorites for the payday. $1 trifecta box with 1,2,4,8,9. Costs me $60 and if it hits would be a nice payout!


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RE: The Belmont - 6/10/2017 8:55:27 AM   


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6,7,8,10 exacta and tri box

GL guys Headin' out now.

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RE: The Belmont - 6/10/2017 9:14:18 AM   


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I like those 5 Dimez--u thought about the super with them too?
greek: nice easy play. You'll probably make more than me with my 3 hours of combos.

UNDERCARD...UNDERCARD ...much better racing than the 12th race.
Race 3: 3,5,7 exacta box
Race 5: 5-1 and 5-6 (Songbird is that super filly who's won 11 of 12 races she's been in)
Race 7: silly bet: #4 to place : best odds to win any money with 2 or 3 possible winners I see
Race 9: Inside Straight or Mohaymen--each for win/pl at 15-1 ish

Rest is the 11th... tri: 1-2/1,2,3,4,6,8/3,4,6,8
exacta 1-2/1,2,3,6,8
super 1,2,6/1,2,3,4,6/1,3,4,6,8/3,4,6,8,9
For the thrill of picking the first 4! (I think that should get me more than I invest !)

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RE: The Belmont - 6/10/2017 9:55:12 AM   


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From Joe Sullivan at the Boston Globe:

If you want to see the best 3-year-old colts test
each other, you’re going to have wait for the
Haskell Invitational July 30 at Monmouth Park.
It’s not going to happen in Saturday’s Belmont
Stakes, the third leg of the Triple Crown and the
so-called Test of Champions. There are no champions
in this race.
The best 3-year-olds are passing on the race,
probably because of the 1½-mile distance — the
only time horses are asked to run that far—or because
of the contemporary training tendency to
give horses more rest (sort of like pitch counts in
So most will wait for the 1ƒ-mile Haskell, or
the 1ƒ-mile Jim Dandy or the 1¼-mile Travers,
the last two run at Saratoga.
The Haskell has the potential to be the best 3-
year-old race of the season if the field includes
Kentucky Derby winner Always Dreaming,
Preakness winner Cloud Computing, 2-year-old
champion Classic Empire (who would have been
favored in the Belmont if he hadn’t suffered a foot
injury), Irish War Cry (the default favorite in the
Belmont), and others.
No doubt California-based trainer Bob Baffert
will have a horse ready for it, too. Looking back,
Mastery, trained by Baffert, was probably the best
3-year-old until he was injured in March.
The historic Belmont is left with a bunch of ordinary
3-year-olds that remained healthy and
have connections interested in trying the distance.
It also has a lukewarm favorite in Irish War
Cry and maybe some opportunity to cash on a
horse with long odds.
Irish War Cry looked like a winner in the Kentucky
Derby as the horses turned for home, but
then he faded. He will run with the early pace in
the Belmont, and he has a trainer, Graham Motion,
who knows how to prepare a horse to run
1½ miles. Irish War Cry has a tendency to alternately
run well and then run poorly. In that case,
he’s ready for a good performance.
Another contender for the early lead will be
Meantime, who has won only one race but did
finish second in the Peter Pan at Belmont. He is
also ridden by big-money jockey Mike Smith,
who will take the lead out of the gate, attempt to
slow the pace to a crawl, and see if his horse can
get the distance.
Irish War Cry should be tracking him, with
Epicharis, Twisted Tom, and Tapwrit not far behind.
Epicharis is a Japanese horse who has been
preparing for the Belmont all spring. He won
four straight races in Japan by a total of 25¾
lengths. He then went to Dubai, where he finished
second in the UAE Derby at 1 3/16 miles.
Unfortunately for the connections, Epicharis
had a bout of lameness Wednesday. That can’t be
good, but trainer Kiyoshi Hagiwara said he will
The rest of the field is made up of horses that
do their best running late and need a fast early
pace to set up a furious finish. I am curious about
Hollywood Handsome because his trainer, Dallas
Stewart, has had a few long shots finish in the
money in Triple Crown races.
Despite the length of the Belmont, the big rally
from far behind rarely happens (although it
did last year with Creator). The winner is usually
a front-runner or a horse that can stay close to
the lead.
The two most likely winners are Irish War Cry
and Tapwrit. I’m not sure if it was the distance
(1¼ miles) or the sloppy track conditions that affected
Irish War Cry in the Derby.
I trust Motion and expect Irish War Cry to run
a good race, and I think he’ll be leading at some
Tapwrit had a load of traffic problems while
finishing sixth in the Derby. That finish was actually
laudable considering his trouble. His trainer,
Todd Pletcher, has proven he can prepare a horse
to win the Belmont after skipping the Preakness,
most recently with Palace Malice in 2013.
I still love how Tapwrit looked in two races at
Tampa Bay Downs while preparing for the Derby.
He had an excuse in the Blue Grass Stakes because
he was unprepared for the start, and then
had the traffic problems in the Derby.
Jockey Jose Ortiz needs to keep Tapwrit close
to the early pace, wait patiently, and then pounce
on the early leaders in the stretch.
Prediction: 1. Tapwrit; 2. Irish War Cry; 3.
Twisted Tom.
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RE: The Belmont - 6/10/2017 2:43:18 PM   

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perfecta box 5-4-8-2
not too excited about this race.  a mediocre year for the triple crown.


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RE: The Belmont - 6/10/2017 6:29:20 PM   


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Had twenty -five dollars across the board $ 25 each win, place & show



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RE: The Belmont - 6/10/2017 7:37:48 PM   


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Nice score, greek.

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